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Posted By: Saint Augustine on eleven/19/10 05:22pm How-do-you-do:
Pulling a Chaparral Lite 26 ft. with a v.4L F150. Power is ok it appears but suspension seems to let chunking ride and bottoming of suspension on bump. Will it be helpful to add a spring or two to the suspension, some kind of leveling, and air cushioning? I like the truck, a 2008 with 26,500 miles on it.
Posted By: mowermech on 11/xix/10 05:27pm Yes, a interruption upgrade might help.
IF yous accept the work done by an authorized suspension shop, they should be able to re-badge the truck to bear witness the college GVWR.
You should probably likewise put college load range tires on it when you practice, though.
The terminate effect will exist that your Ford Ranch Wagon F150 will begin to ride similar a truck!
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Posted By: Terryallan on 11/19/10 07:19pm

Saint Augustine wrote:

Hullo:
Pulling a Chaparral Lite 26 ft. with a v.4L F150. Power is ok it appears just interruption seems to allow chunking ride and bottoming of pause on bump. Will it be helpful to add a bound or two to the suspension, some kind of leveling, and air cushioning? I like the truck, a 2008 with 26,500 miles on it.

I'k only guessing you lot understand. but I looked up tha Chaparral low-cal 26, and it has a pin weight DRY of one,600 lbs. I'thousand thinkin, with the trailer Loaded, and the truck loaded. you could be over your GVWR. And that may exist part of the reason your truck in bottoming out. If you are in fact over the GVWR. Zippo you can add together will enhance it.

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Posted By: myowneq on 11/xix/10 07:37pm I dunno if what Terryallan says is truthful, merely if 1600 dry is truthful, there wont' be much you can do for a one-half ton at that kind of weight.

I was gonna suggest SuperSprings earlier I read, but then information technology sounds like mowermech has the better option.

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Posted Past: LIKE2BUILD on 11/19/10 xi:16pm

Saint Augustine wrote:

Chaparral Lite 26 ft.
5.4L F150 2008 with 26,500 miles.
...suspension seems to allow...bottoming of pause on bump.


Which 26 ft Chaparral Calorie-free are you towing?

267RL GVWR 9100# Dry Hitch 1100#

268RLE GVWR 9200# Dry Hitch 1226#

269BH GVWR 11500# Dry Hitch 1680#

If you pull whatsoever of these trailers with even 1000# over UVW yous're even so looking at somewhere around 1800# of pin weight.

The specs I institute for the '08 F150 is curb weight is somewhere between 5000# and 5500#. With standard suspension you take up to 7200# GVWR, depending on cab and bed length or 8200# GVWR if you take the HD payload package.

Basically what I'one thousand saying is the pin weight plus the weight of the 5er hitch puts you right at 2000# in the bed of the truck. And then, even without passengers or junk you've already met or exceeded the truck's GVWR. I see that Coachman calls these "1/2 Ton Towable", but that's naught more than marketing mumbo colossal.

I suppose y'all could put air bags on the truck to help with the load. I would too be concerned nigh the RAWR which is actually a function of tire capacity. If you are overloading the tires information technology could be a actually bad state of affairs if you happen to blow one out while towing the 5er.

Okay...and then I audio like the weight police. What I'k trying to say is you lot're operating the truck to a higher place information technology's rated chapters. Poor suspension performance under these weather condition is no surprise. I suppose you could put air bags on the truck to assistance with the load but I'chiliad non sure if that is the stop all solution.

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Posted By: Golden_HVAC on xi/20/10 12:21am Are you towing a big fifth wheel with a F-150? Or a travel trailer?

IF you are attempting to tow a heavy 5th wheel with the F-150, then yous are probably way over the GVWR for the truck. A trip to the scales volition prove this, and you tin make a decision from in that location.

If yous have a travel trailer, there is promise. Perhaps the weight distribution bars are not tight enough. Or you can try one of these to aid with the weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqlYtuAUMn0&characteristic=related

It volition have some of the trailer hitch weight (for conventional trailers, not a fifth wheel) and transfer information technology to the two wheels in the boggy hitch.

Something similar this was used when filming "The Long Trailer" with Lucy Ball.

Fred.

Posted Past: ib516 on eleven/20/ten 12:29am Timbrens, Supersprings, Roadmaster Active Interruption, etc. may help. There are many options available in the aftermarket.
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Posted Past: Saint Augustine on 11/20/ten 05:02am It is a 26RLS Chaparral Lite.
Posted Past: JIMNLIN on eleven/20/10 06:31am Well you lot certainly didn't give much info on your truck or blazon of trailer. The but thing I see close to a 26RLS Chaparral lite on Coachmans web is a 27 RLS Calorie-free 5th cycle trailer. As another affiche mentions it has almost 1800 lbs dry pivot weight. Wet pin weight will be closer to 2000 lbs. That puts you over the truck RAWR/tire capacities. Tin yous give us more info for a amend recommendation.

IB516 has some good aftermarket options for increasing your truck suspension capabilities. I would add you demand LT D tires forth woth higher rated wheels on the truck.

If your truck is a F150 HD so you will exist OK. If you have a 26' TT your truck with pause help should exist fine.

Posted Past: Saint Augustine on xi/xx/10 07:13am Pitiful! Truck is a Ford F150 five.4L Extended Cab 2008. 5th bike is a Chaparral Light 26 RLS 2009 model. List was 26 ft. for the fifth wheel.
Posted By: SoCalDesertRider on 11/xx/x 08:46am Y'all can upgrade the springs, wheels and tires, merely the axle itself (and brakes) volition be the limiting gene on an F150. Depending on which axle model your F150 has, the axle is only good for about 3500-4500 lbs. If your truck is the F150HD model, the rear axle should be adept for 5300 lbs, if I remember right.

Any local spring shop tin can build you a new set of rear leaf packs to behave the weight and keep the truck level when loaded. 16" LT E-rated tires and matching rated wheels can fix the bicycle/tire overload trouble. You'll demand heavier duty shocks after the spring piece of work. Bilsteins, KYB's and Rancho'southward are all expert.

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Posted By: Perrysburg Dodgeboy on 11/20/10 09:09am Well afterward you spend around $iii to $4K on upgrades to plow your 150 into a 250 you could have merely sold information technology and bought the right TOOL for the task!

No 150/1500 should be used to tow a fiver IMO the only exception would be the Toyota that is a 2500 badged every bit a 1500. Take the striking and buy the correct truck, we have all been there dun that. 150/1500 trucks do non have the axles, brakes, interruption, frame, tires and on and on to do Hard disk drive towing. This includes the and so called HD 1/2 tons [emoticon] [emoticon] once again buy the right tool for the job.

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Posted By: kw/00 on 11/20/10 12:41pm "Toyota that is a 2500 badged as a 1500" ?? when did the Tundra become a 2500? I dont recal it having a 8600GVWR and to a higher place rating, not certain I am following.. what most the "and so called Hard disk drive 1/2 tons" what do y'all you consider those to be? simply curios..BTW some of those are 3/4 tons....
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Posted By: Perrysburg Dodgeboy on 11/20/10 01:20pm

kw/00 wrote:

"Toyota that is a 2500 badged every bit a 1500" ?? when did the Tundra become a 2500? I dont recal information technology having a 8600GVWR and in a higher place rating, non sure I am following.. what nearly the "and then called Hard disk drive 1/2 tons" what do y'all you consider those to be? just curios..BTW some of those are 3/four tons....

Both GM and Ford offer or did offering a Hard disk drive version on their half ton trucks, they are not three quarter tons but a "heavy half". Maybe they take finally stopped that nonsense, my 1990 F-150 was a so called heavy half.

Every bit far as the Toyota if you inquire the guys on here they all (OK some) say they are rated to tow 13,000# fivers without any modes. Heck Toyota shows them towing a slip loader with the bed loaded full of stone! I don't think I would try that with my 2500 diesel permit alone a half ton gasser. That is why I have said the Tundra is a nether rated 3 quarter ton truck.

Don

Posted By: kw/00 on 11/20/10 01:33pm Ok see your point virtually the Tundra...
Posted Past: SoCalDesertRider on eleven/20/10 04:21pm The light duty F250 for '97 was built on the new F150 chassis/torso. Afterward, they called that lite duty F250 the F150HD. It had 7-lug wheels and a heavier rear beam and springs, though it was still a semi-bladder 1/ii-ton class axle. I would not phone call either of them a three/4-ton truck, but they were both stronger trucks than a regular F150 from the aforementioned era.
Posted By: lesmore49 on 11/20/x 04:59pm I needed to beefiness upwards the intermission for a vehicle I was using for towing about xv years ago. I took it to a well established shop that specialized in suspension work...information technology was a truck spring shop.
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Posted By: kw/00 on xi/20/10 06:44pm Yep I accept seen the 97 Ford F250LD my buddy had 1. It did have seven lug axels if I recall. It looked like the regular F150 simply sat taller. At that place is a guy in my neighborhood that has 1, just wast curios what the GVWR was. Anyhow GM 1500HD is different as many as you lot would know. Its a 3/4 ton (standard 2500) y'all tin can get from Chevy just in iv door grade.. Many topics on this truck as near would know, I judge in the new serial Chevy 'due south they phased out the 1500HD 2500 and just comport the 2500HD correct? saw one the other 24-hour interval where I parked and it looked good. Had the 6.0 lt in information technology with six speed car of grade, well cant afford it so no dreaming from me....
Posted By: brianjw on eleven/xx/10 07:01pm ...
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Posted By: SoCalDesertRider on eleven/20/10 07:55pm

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Vii lug????I thought mine had vi simply it was a long time ago....man over twenty years ago....no wonder I'm getting grayness [emoticon]

The 7-lug axle was but on the '97 and later on. I forget what year they quit with the odd 7 lug pattern. F150'due south and Broncos '96 and before were 5 lug.
Posted By: myowneq on eleven/20/10 07:55pm ***looks under bed, in the closet, in the pantry, in the shower***

Huh, I wonder where the original topic went to....

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Posted By: mowermech on 11/21/10 06:56am "Hd" trucks?
Because that the "150" or "1500" designator was originated to prove that the truck was heavier duty than the original "100" (or, in the instance of Ford, the "1" designator), it would seem that ALL trucks are now "HD" models.
And then, if a "150" is a heavy duty "100", exactly what IS a "150HD" or "1500HD"?
Let'due south meet, a Ford F1 or F100 is a half ton, and an F2 or F200 is a iii/four ton.
An F150 is a heavy duty one-half ton (five/eight ton?).
So, what IS an F150 Hd? An 11/xvi ton?
It gets disruptive!
Posted By: shadows4 on xi/21/10 07:08am

SoCalDesertRider wrote:

Perrysburg Dodgeboy wrote:

Seven lug????I thought mine had six only it was a long time ago....man over twenty years ago....no wonder I'm getting gray [emoticon]

The vii-lug axle was only on the '97 and later. I forget what year they quit with the odd 7 lug pattern. F150'south and Broncos '96 and before were 5 lug.

You lot still go the seven lug axle with the 150HD. Information technology comes with a 3.73 ratio. Standard cab or Supercab. No Crewcab available with the 150HD. Payload near 2750 lbs. Could tow a smaller 5er with that. JMHO.

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Posted By: Tvov on 11/21/10 07:19am

mowermech wrote:

And then, what IS an F150 Hard disk drive? An xi/16 ton?

LOL! I agree well-nigh the confusion. Thanks for the chuckle.

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Posted By: kw/00 on 11/21/x 12:22pm Just go to get with the GVWR on trucks anymore, due to the dissimilar combinations. I think that most of the problem is that people think in that location truck is ameliorate then everybody else or you lot need a massive F450 to move a small camper. Just open the door await at the darn sticker and go from there... Everybodys needs are unlike hence dissimilar trucks. And so beef upwardly the F150 if ya get to, or if ya accept alot of money for those who want to spend it for you then go bigger GVWR.
Posted Past: Perrysburg Dodgeboy on 11/20/10 07:46pm Seven lug????I thought mine had 6 only it was a long time agone....man over twenty years ago....no wonder I'm getting gray [emoticon]

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